Kelly Carlin-McCall

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You will be faced with facing all the things in yourself that keep you from knowing who you are, you'll have to stand up to roles and definitions that your family and culture have given you.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Knowing Who You Are
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My mother used to say, "When you can learn to laugh at yourself, a lot of healing comes from that."
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Mother
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When I am ever in any situation that's getting too heavy, I lighten it up with humor.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Heavy
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I have known know many therapists who come out of Pacifica Graduate Institute and love being both artists and therapists at the same time, like Maureen Murdock. They are photographers and dancers and other kinds of things and therapists at the same time. I think it really makes them a much more interesting therapist because they're so engaged with the imagination and the creativity and the depths of who they are.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Creativity
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The unconscious mind is way bigger than the conscious mind. Using tools to access its wisdom and self-organizing features is powerful medicine.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Powerful
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If you can see yourself more than just a victim, aha, now you've got the place to move into that is much more vital and creative and is resourceful than being a victim.
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Collection: Moving
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Working with the body and the imagination - non-verbal ways especially - tap into our deepest wounds and our highest potentials as humans.
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Collection: Imagination
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I had a client who just wanted to entertain me the whole time, that is a defense against going deep, in my mind. What happens when the jokester is not allowed to deflect with humor? You then have to feel the pain, and learn that you can survive it. It makes you more resilient and stronger in the long run, and your sense of humor will always be there. Being able to see the funny is deep.
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Collection: Running
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I remember going on vacation for two weeks once and one of my clients who was very clinically depressed really could not handle it, really unraveled himself. That scared me. I didn't want to be in that position.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Vacation
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Coming into Pacifica I knew that I wanted whatever I was going to learn there, I knew I wanted to integrate that into my art no matter what.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Art
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Going through these academic programs, your job really is to learn how to be a therapist. They're training you to sit in front of clients and it's a serious matter. You're holding people's psyches.
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Collection: Jobs
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[Humor] could be dicey for a therapist and needs to be used very deftly.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Needs
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I didn't have a calling to be a therapist. I really went to Pacifica for a very specific kind of life experience, to really kind of find my path in a deeper way.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Calling
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If you're never called, then you don't know any better. If you are called and don't answer the call, then that is the most difficult and painful. If you are called and do answer the call, it is the adventure of your life.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Adventure
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The work is important and essential and I've had a therapist myself for decades and it's important work, but I knew that I wanted to work with people who are more functioning and that's when I decided to pursue my performance career full-time.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Careers
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Being successful as a creative person is a crapshoot, but it's essential if you feel drawn to being creative that you express it.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Successful
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This has been my struggle for years - the pull between wanting to be in the spotlight and yet also to make a difference in the world. Lately I've come to conclude that I can be a "selfish" artist that focuses on issues of individuation, power, and freedom.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Selfish
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I was supporting other people's creative dreams and I wasn't supporting my own. I didn't feel like I could really serve people having that kind of process within me.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Dream
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There's a grip we sometimes some of us get on our pain and suffering and our past and our wounding that we over-identify with it. If we laugh at it, we're saying, "Oh, I'm laughing at myself, which means my victimhood isn't all of who I am."
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Pain
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When I did my first solo show and it made my dad uncomfortable, I wasn't quite ready for my spotlight moment in my life yet. I didn't have enough sense of myself and self-esteem and confidence: this is when I started looking to get my master's in something.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Dad
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I didn't think I'd be a good therapist. I didn't think I could do both at the same time. Maybe some people can, but I wanted a bigger spotlight and I don't think that's right for clients to have a therapist who wants that kind of life.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Thinking
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Coming out of graduation, I didn't immediately know what direction I wanted to do so I decided to just stay as an intern until it really kind of dawned on me and I felt more compelled one way or the other. So I gave it a few years and then after two years it was really clear that deep down I missed being a full time creative artist. Ironically, I started getting clients who were all in the entertainment industry and a lot of them were in comedy!
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Collection: Artist
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With regard to how I chose Pacifica, my story is interesting. I did not go to Pacifica to specifically become a therapist. I went to Pacifica to study Jungian psychology and archetypes and mythology and there were many different programs there.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Interesting
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Being a therapist can be very serious though. There are people's lives in your hands. For me, it was too much.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Hands
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If my artist life didn't work or if I needed to work in some capacity part-time in something, I knew I'd have a real life skill [become a therapist].
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Real
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There's a real careful line you have to walk there because your first job [therapist] is to create safety for the client to feel safe enough to turn their vision in towards themselves and their experience in the moment and to reveal things that usually carry a lot of shame or that kind of stuff around.
- Kelly Carlin-McCall
Collection: Jobs