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I mean in the community that I grew up in, you know, a very,

I mean in the community that I grew up in, you know, a very, you know, mixed, almost entirely African Diaspora community, one of the things that we were not ever supposed to say was how much self-hatred and colorism determined and guided what we would call our desire. In other words, what we would consider beautiful.

Art has a way of confronting us, of reminding us, of

Art has a way of confronting us, of reminding us, of engaging us, in what it means to be human, and what it means to be human is to be flawed, is to be contradictory, is to be often weak, and yet despite all of these what we would consider drawbacks, that we’re also quite beautiful. Spin is the opposite.

Of course, the whole Andy Kaufman angle was classic. I’m

Of course, the whole Andy Kaufman angle was classic. I’m real proud of that. I mean that is something people are still talking about 20 years later, making movies about and that sort of thing. I mean not a day goes by that someone doesn’t mention Andy Kaufman to me.

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